Episode 85 – Team Capisce

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Happiest Sunday, Clovers!

We’re here to talk about Chapters 30 and 32 of Time’s Convert in our SECOND TO LAST chapter episode for the book! In the next episode, we’ll join all of the storylines and talk about endings and beginnings and change… it is a book in the All Souls Universe, after all. Today, we’re committing crimes against the German language (sorry), issuing an elegy for Marcus’s youth, finding babies (making babies!), and trying (unsuccessfully) to pull Matthew and Marcus out of a relationship nosedive.

Download the episode here.

We’re deep in the 2020 Real-Time Read of A Discovery of Witches, but it’s never too late to join! Watch our Twitter feed and Facebook page for updates and follow the wonderful discussions taking place on the All Souls Discussion Group. In addition, make sure you’ve got your passes for this year’s virtual All Souls Con! We had the best time recording our panel and think you’re going to love the lineup.

If you like what we do, please consider reviewing us on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also support us on Patreon or Redbubble.

Stay safe, wear a mask, wash your hands, and be kind to one another,


Cait and Jen


Episode 79 – The Judgemobile

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Happy Sunday, Clovers!

It’s a beautiful, hot midsummer day here at C&C East. We hope that you are safe, well, and healthy and that you’re ready for an unexpectedly musical episode of Chamomile & Clove.

In this episode, we’re covering Chapters 20 and 24 of Time’s Convert. It’s Matthew’s rebirthday party and we’ve FOOLISHLY invited Baldwin to dinner to make a ruckus in the name of family time. It gives us a great opportunity to talk about acceptance, tolerance, body image, vampire hierarchy, and why biting is (and simultaneously is not) a great tool for solving problems. Guys, there’s so much biting today. There is also a lot of improvised singing, so consider yourselves warned.

Download the episode here.

Our reading schedule for Time’s Convert is here. Don’t forget to follow along with the All Souls Discussion Group‘s read-along of the novel this summer — we’re going in a different order, but there’s great discussion in the community and you should check it out. You can find us on Facebook as part of the Chamomile & Clove Clovers group or on Twitter @chamomilenclove. We’d love it if you reviewed our show on iTunes, became a patron through Patreon, or bought some C&C swag on Redbubble.

Love you always. See you next time,

Yours, musically,

Cait and Jen


Episode 77 – For Worser, For Better

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We hope this finds you well and safe on a gorgeous Sunday morning.

At the outset of this episode, we’re taking a couple of moments to talk about the #BlackLivesMatter movement and how we’re working on dismantling racism in our lives outside the podcast and what that means for our podcast work going forward. We’re committed to you, our listeners, to truly intersectional feminism, and to learning (and forking up) in public. There may or may not be some of that in this episode — but here we go anyway.

In this episode, we’re talking about Chapters 3, 5, and 8 of Time’s Convert. It’s partially about awkward transitions (wee), defensive cocktails, and parenting and blind panic (we see you, Diana), but it’s also about decolonizing history, authorial and audience expectations, and what happens when you transition from a trilogy to a Very Different Book in the same universe.

Download the episode here.

You can find us — as usual — at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com or on Twitter @chamomilenclove. You can also find us on Facebook and in our Facebook group, the Chamomile and Clove Clovers.


Cait and Jen


Episode 76 – Sister Flex

Hello, Clovers!

Happy Memorial Day Weekend to our American listeners and friends — we hope you’re safe at home and enjoying the best of the early summer.

In this episode, we’re talking about Chapters 28 and 33 of Time’s Convert. Phoebe’s a fledgling, now, so she’s got a lot more privileges… and a lot more issues to contend with as she strikes out in the world. We’ve got a lot to say this week about vampire feeding–consent, etiquette, teaching, ethics–and then lots more to say about the Taylor family dynamics and whether Phoebe’s supposed inability to return to trade is part of classism or patriarchy (or both?).

Download the episode here.

In our next episode, we’re reuniting with Matthew and Diana and turning back the pages of this book to its early chapters. Not sure where to start? Check out our Reading & Release Schedule to find out where we are (and where we’ll be!).

In the meantime, you can find us on Twitter, on Facebook, or you can e-mail us (as always!) at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com.

Have a wonderful Sunday!


Cait and Jen


The Great Wrap-Up

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Clovers and friends!

Starting this afternoon, we’ll begin recording our final two wrap episodes for the All Souls Trilogy — all three books, all at once. It’s going to be a blast.

In preparing for this episode, we’ve gone back into the vault and listened to our wrap episodes from A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, and the Book of Life in order to tease out trilogy-wide themes, plots, character arcs, and motifs. While listening to the back catalogue, I realized it might be helpful for y’all to have all of our wrap episodes listed in one place. Accordingly, here’s a quick guide to our wrap episodes:

Episode 18: Cait and Jen and the Time Nautilus – A Discovery of Witches Wrap Episode 1. Time travel! Plot structure! Download the episode here.

Episode 19: Tweedy Malevolence – A Discovery of Witches Wrap Episode 2. Character arcs! Antagonists! Listener feedback! Download the episode here.

Episode 42: I Made Slides – Shadow of Night Wrap Episode 1. Otherwise known as Cait Fell Down a Powerpoint Hole and Shadow of Night Has Lots of Plots. Download the episode here.

Episode 45: This Diagram Is Not To Scale – Shadow of Night Wrap Episode 2. Time travel, character development, themes, and the not-so-subtle feeling that the universe is too large for our brains. Download the episode here.

Episode 68: Plotschund – Book of Life Wrap Episode 1. The Return of the Powerpoint. Download the episode here.

Episode 69: Segway Away – Book of Life Episode 2. Character arcs and themes and motifs and thoughts on how to land the ending of a trilogy. Download the episode here.

We are so excited to start talking about the trilogy as a whole and we hope you’ll join us. In the meantime, keep an eye out for more prizes and fun from the All Souls Discussion Group during the A Discovery of Witches TV 2020 Winter Watch! As always, you can find us on Facebook in the Chamomile & Clove Clovers group and on Twitter as @chamomilenclove. If you’re so inclined, you can check out our merchandise on Redbubble or become a member of our Patreon.

As always, please feel free to show us a bit of love on the podcasting app or review site of your choice. It helps other people find us and makes our day. We’re so lucky to have you!

See you Sunday!