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Episode 135 – Defcon Exorcism

Clovers,

It’s time to unpick the plot threads of The Black Bird Oracle — the obvious, the not so obvious, the compelling, and the unfinished. In this episode, we’re talking about narrative questions, narrative and narrator choices, and the impact of TBBO on the rest of what we know about the All Souls Universe.

Download the episode here.

Thanks for joining us for TBBO — it’s been fun.

If there’s another book in the All Souls Universe, would you want us to (a) read it ahead of time (like we did with ADoW/SoN/BoL/TC); (b) read as we record (TBBO); or (c) one of us reads and the other doesn’t? Let us know at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com.

Take care of each other,

Cait & Jen

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Episode 133 – An Average Bonanza

Happy Sunday, Clovers.

So pleased to be with you again.

In this episode, we’re covering Chapters 24-27 of The Black Bird Oracle. We’ve reached the end of the story… or have we? In this episode, we’re talking about Diana’s moral compass, antagonists, putting our protagonist in time out, what TBBO has to say about Higher Magic/Light and Shadow (we aren’t entirely sure, guys), that damned creepy-ass doll, and whether the shape of the plot is any clearer at the end of the book.

Download the episode here.

xoxo

Cait and Jen

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Episode 132 – Didi Grabbyfingers

Clovers,

Happy Sunday!

We made it to Venice (what), used Ysabeau as a distraction (smart), and conducted a teensy witch heist (wait, again?), but we still haven’t quite met the antagonist for this book… or have we? In this episode, we’re talking about Diana’s character arc (…flatter than we expected?), her moral compass (wobbly), and the possibilities left by the last two chapters in this book.

Thanks for joining us!

Download the episode here.

xoxox,

Cait and Jen

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Episode 129 – Null Juju in the Aphrodisiac Forest

Clovers,

Hi, hi. Happy 2025.

January is always a bit of an odd, dark time — we’re in a slow season and everything is a little… off. You know, like perhaps the forest behind your family homestead puts off hallucinogenic fumes that take you on a sensual journey full of insects.


We’re getting ahead of ourselves.

In this episode, we’re talking about Chapters 17-18 of The Black Bird Oracle and it’s a wild ride. There’s symbolism, some odd garment choices, sentient hedges, biting fairies that live in your ancestor’s hair, and some allusions to Alice in Wonderland that have us asking big questions like, “what drug lives in the Ravenswood?”

Download the episode here.

We hope you enjoy it,

Cait and Jen

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Episode 125 – Oracle Grubber

Hi, Clovers!

It’s not clear why this didn’t post as scheduled, but better late than never.

In this episode, we’re tackling Chapters 9 and 10 of The Black Bird Oracle, which combines the witch version of a courtroom procedural with ancient mythology. We’re talking about allegory, long-term relationships, continuity, structure, and more — including whether we’re setting up for another trilogy — and we’re delighted to have you with us.

Download the episode here.

See you next time!

xoxo

Cait and Jen